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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 5, 2008 7:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barak Obama

George W. went to Harvard and Yale, so take that for what it's worth. Lot of dumb asses in good schools and a lot of geniuses never got a GED.

But I certainly don't think Obama is unintelligent; in fact, I think he is extremely smart. I just don't see him as the "ONE" who will lead us to the promised land. I'm not opposed to the guy, and if he ends up on the ticket, with the rest of folks at play right now (assuming no brokered convention where someone not currently in the race popos up), he'll likely get my vote. But once again, I won't be enthused and certainly won't expect a hell of a lot as I'm more interested in those guys behind the curtain in the boardroom. Follow the money and cigar smoke...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Feb 5, 2008 8:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barak Obama

Hey BD,come on now! Dubya was a silver spoon frat boy with a C average. Obama was head or president or whatever it's called of Harvard law. Isn't that a big difference? He certainly didn't have a family name that got him where he was.

I was by no means making a campaign plea for him or stating my preferences. I was just compelled to answer Dire Wolf's jab. Sorry Wolf, just too cheap and easy. I get enough right wing radio rhetoric up here, I have to call foul sometimes.

Maybe I'm cynical but I think the days of one guy making a difference died with a few tragic bullets.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Feb 5, 2008 9:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barak Obama

so GWB did get average grades.
Eh, no one said he was the sharpest knife in the drawer.

The damage done, or visaversa, the Presidency restored...
but for what...
for whom?
I figure the economy is shot, unless you have some equity to speak of, you ain't goin' nowhere in the next 20-30 years, ahhhh... shit.

If I had time I'd look more into the history of his grandfather, Prescott Bush... whom I heard sent large contributions visavis to that Austrian corporal they thought they could manipulate into... whatever, God knows...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 5, 2008 10:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barak Obama

I wasn't trying to equate the 2 - you only have to listen to the 2 speak to hear the difference. I said Obama is very sharp. And yes, to be editor of harvard law review, you have to have more intellectual chops than most people. He's very, very smart. And Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar (as was the guy who wrote Me and Bobby McGee), but I always thought Hilary was the smart one. Anyway, I listened to Obama's speech tonight and I just feel like it's more Madison Avenue packaging of platitudes ("yes we can"; the 15th variation on "change", etc). Now, don't get me wrong, if he can make people excited about his campaign and get them out there to the polls to vote for him, more power to him. I'm just deeply, deeply cynical about him actually being more than a stuffed shirt. If people want specifics, lets start with his energy policy (or lack thereof)....

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Feb 6, 2008 7:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barak Obama

Bill Clinton definitely used books for more than kindling and ballast.
Hilary is as smart or smarter.
But the media will tear the stuffing out of any stuffshirt who would be President...

It's the wrong job for a drip-dry intellect -
such as Adlai Stevenson, Estes Kefauver, George McGovern, Nelson Rockefeller, William F. Buckley, Dennis Kucinich, Howard Dean, Steve Forbes, Jerry Brown, Mario Cuomo...
sad but true, the people want a Ronnie Reagan, a man they can understand, who understands them.

No one guy (or gal) is going to solve the problems we're facing now...
or even put a believable spin on it.

We are cynical, heaven help us.

Where have you gone, Lloyd Bentsen, Dick Gebhardt, Ross Perot, Harold Stassen, Everett Dirkson, Bob Dole?

Come back!
Cause we're in some pretty deep shit now, and the good times are gettin' slim, jim...

so just smile, keep on truckin' and vote... for Mr. Nobody.

We don't get fooled again!


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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Feb 5, 2008 7:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barak Obama

c'mon, they would have given George W. an "A" or a "pass" if he had sat in class playing with crayons and a coloring book.

Altho, wasn't his grade average at Yale a C+ or something?

If he got A's, it was for selling the best blow. And always having a doob, dude.
And for the price of oil, that too.

I voted to-day... for Rocko Bam, why not.
He's no John F. Kennedy (to quote the Democrat running for VP who laid that line on Bush Sr.'s running mate, whatzisname) but I think he could lead to better things, maybe good people will come forward (if he doesn't get his head blown off).

When we had JFK, the world loved us. At least the French and Brits did, and definitely the Latins.

The world would be impressed if we had Obama in the White House.

More than if we get a woman. Most countries have already had women in charge - think of England... India, Israel, Phillipines, Argentina (Eva!)...
the US is far behind time-wise in filling the top slot with a lady.

Hey Hil, those cookies ready yet?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 5, 2008 8:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barak Obama

I couldn't vote in ca primary - i'm not a registered member of any party. Registered independent. Leaves me out of the primary/caucus "process" most places. Democracy.

Like the lp cover. One of my faves and glad to see he's back out working and communicating with Mr. Wonder about future collaborations...

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